I just know I’m opening a can of worms here, but this story about religious faith in Florida is relevant to Florida Citizens for Science due to things like this:
“And in hot-button issues such as evolution, you have the country almost evenly split in half, and where they stand is directly linked to their religious beliefs.”
So, it’s important to know what those religious beliefs are. That doesn’t mean folks should mock those beliefs! Understanding is important, but mocking based strictly on those beliefs is not. Now, if an individual tries to spout off a bunch of nonsense concerning science based on nothing more than religious belief, well, it’s open season then. Science is based on collecting facts to form theories about the physical world in and around us.
The story says that Florida is not quite as deeply religious as our Southern neighbors. However, I wish there was a way to break things down by regions in Florida. It seems that folks in the Panhandle of Florida do share their religious views with the more devout neighbors across the borders.
Floridians aren’t jumping out of their beach chairs to go to church.
In fact, among Bible Belt states, Florida ranks last in church attendance among residents who consider themselves religious, according to a new study of more than 36,000 Americans.
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The research, released Monday, sets Florida apart from its more religious conservative Southern neighbors and positions it as the state that most closely resembles the beliefs of the nation as a whole.
“Florida’s religious makeup is not really Southern,” said the center’s director, Luis Lugo. “That adds to the incredible [cultural and ethnic] diversity that you find within the state.”
I just wrote an entry about that same survey. What you’ve said about Florida is true for a number of other large states in my experience. Coastal California is different from the inland region, for instance. Upstate New York is worlds apart from New York City. Moreover, the survey lumps together at least two states that are quite different; Vermont is extremely liberal overall, whereas New Hampshire tends to be more conservative in some ways and tends toward libertarianism on many social issues.
As you say, it would be a lot more accurate to treat extreme southern Florida and the rest of the state separately.
As I’ve said before here, it shows that it is a very vocal minority with an agenda is trying to divert our science standards through deceit and politics.
Most religious Floridians do not share their beliefs, nor do they wish to interfere with the education of children.
Ack… I meant to say “…with an agenda that is…”
We might ask if religious faith and science have any correlation?
According to a Harris Poll conducted in 2005 there is little question that exposure to a scientific education reduces the likelihood that a person will believe in God, and does so in a more or less linear fashion (about 10% of the general population are atheists/agnostics, 40% of doctors, 60% of research scientists, and 98% of National Academy members).
Mr Smith
Excellent question. Scientific education in general is a separate issue from the indoctrination of Darwinian microbe to man evolution. And it’s that indoctrination that is the issue. The 1925 Butler Act was placed into law because the so-called scientific evidence shown, portrayed biblical teaching as foolishness. However there was solid proof, backed by reputable scientist that man had evolved from ape like creatures. That proof being represented by Piltdown Man, Nebraska Man, Haeckel’s embryos and the like.
So today we have the same scenario, forget the bible. The same type of indoctrination mingled with real science and bogus crap.
You’ve shown with the percentages, levels of indoctrination.
The eternal truth every religion in the world wants to spread is serve the humanity and spread peace. If they didn’t preach and practice this, then its not a religion at all.
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Peter
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ABO you said
Tsk Tsk. You act as if people and scientists still uses those as acurate teaching tools. It is a fact, that the only group who still brings up these “discoveries” are creationists themselves. You lot also seem to leave out that it was scientists that called out the hoaxes. Again, the YEC/ID crowd leave a lot to be desired when it comes to science.
He’s also projecting. I know, surprise, surprise. Evolution is taught a MAXIMUM of a few hours, if at all, at the high school level. Unquestioned belief in a psychotic, homicidal, narcissistic, petty, jealous, vindictive invisible friend and his reality-defying personal memoirs is drilled into the fragile minds of the deluded’s offspring FROM BIRTH. One of these scenarios is truly “indoctrination”. Now, which one of these does it fit? Hmmmmm…
What the numbers show is that the belief in stupid things decreases as education increases. Wow, go figure!
We have simply GOT to figure out what to do about this incessant trolling and disruption.
How many threads are we going to allow to be dragged off on the same, tired tangents and flamewars, by the exact same people? People who have shown no intent to actually learn anything?
DUh, we need to have a pgharynguFCSfest here in the Daytona Beach area. 🙂
“DUh, we need to have a pgharynguFCSfest here in the Daytona Beach area. ”
Hell, yeah! I’ll buy a round at the Ocean Deck!
Right on Ivy Mike!!
I can make it to Daytona! That’s not too far!
Great, we just need to think of a date for the gittagether. It’ll be lots of fun..I think….
I’m in Brooksville but could drive out for something like that. 🙂
Hey, there are lots of hotel rooms, that way you don’t do something that causes Brandon to report about!
Daytona is a great place. I can just imagine all you guys getting together. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x46hy6_funny-monkey-sounds-video_fun
That’s after we’ve killed the second keg. 🙂
I can just imagine all of YOUR group getting together. Probably as persuasive as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lmewv-yuUhc
Hey, isn’t that ABO on the step stool? Maybe he’s using that so his voice “reaches higher”. Wow, if I were there, i’d start makin’ out with my woman..right in front of those closeted homosexuals.
Hey, waddabout July 11, 18 or 26 for a gittagether at the Ocean Deck ( hat tip to IvyMike) in Daytona, I suppose we could even invite Brandon… 🙂
Everybody knows,
Everybody goes,
to the Ocean Deck!
Oy! I hear the reggae music now mon!
Think the peoples of these galaxies feel abandoned by their god/gods?
http://www.badastronomy.com/bablog/2008/06/26/geminis-galactic-twins/#comment-185315
GAds, I lived in and around Daytona for a good ten years…from the mid-80’s to the mid-90’s.
I dumped more than a few paychecks into the Ocean Deck, not to mention Bernkastle’s up the beach a way. The Deck is one of my absolute, all-time favorite watering holes, and considering that I’ve been to something like 50 countries, that’s a tall statement.
Next time I’m planning on being there is in April of next year…got a fraternity reunion to go to.
Right now, though, I’m tied to my job here in sunny Pensacola. On the plus side, I’m only about a 15-minute drive from the Florabama.
Along the A-1-A strip from Jacksonville to Daytona on the Atlantic side are some of the finest seaside drinking establishments in the world. Anyone ever been to the Golden Lion in Flagler Beach? Best damned fish and chips you’ll ever taste, great entertainment, and a wide assortment of brews. It’s run by an ex-pat Englishman.