{"id":659,"date":"2008-07-21T18:49:49","date_gmt":"2008-07-21T22:49:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.flascience.org\/wp\/?p=659"},"modified":"2008-08-30T10:21:57","modified_gmt":"2008-08-30T14:21:57","slug":"forked-tongue-anyone","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=659","title":{"rendered":"Forked tongue, anyone?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Did I ever tell you the one about the evolution opponents who claimed that religion had nothing whatsoever to do with their stance? You probably think you have heard this one before, but you will still get a chuckle out of it, I guarantee.<\/p>\n<p>Let me take you back in time to Feb. 19, 2008. Twenty people gave short speeches to the Florida Board of Education. Half were in support of the new draft of state science standards that the board was considering. This draft included the subject of evolution as a prominent &#8220;big idea&#8221; all students must know. The other half opposed the standards because of how evolution was presented. They claimed it was dogmatic. The standards&#8217; supporters made a big deal out of how the other side&#8217;s motivation was religion. The opposition protested that religion had nothing to do with it.<\/p>\n<p>John Stemberger, from the Florida Family Policy Council, stood before the Board and said, &#8220;I have to say to start with that I find it actually fascinating if not highly amusing that every single one of our opponents here today, without question, has interjected faith, God, religion, creationism; and we have said nothing about that. What you have heard is a straw man from our opponents today, that\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s exactly what you\u00e2\u20ac\u2122ve heard.&#8221; That&#8217;s a direct quote right from the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.fldoe.org\/board\/meetings\/2008_02_19\/meetingArchive.asp\">video archive of the meeting<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Take a look <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flfamily.org\/policy.php?polid=27\">at this page<\/a> on the Florida Family Policy Council website. Scroll on down to the &#8220;In depth Research and Articles&#8221; section. Hmmmmm &#8230; what&#8217;s this?<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Sowing Atheism<br \/>\nBy Robert Bowie Johnson Jr.<br \/>\nThe National Academy of Sciences&#8217; sinister scheme to teach our children they&#8217;re decended (sic) from reptiles<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Fascinating!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Did I ever tell you the one about the evolution opponents who claimed that religion had nothing whatsoever to do with their stance? You probably think you have heard this one before, but you will still get a chuckle out &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=659\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pcZNLl-aD","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":357,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=357","url_meta":{"origin":659,"position":0},"title":"Florida Baptist Witness is on the case","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"December 19, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"We learned of Florida Board of Education member Donna Callaway's dislike for sound science education, namely, her opposition to evolution being taught, in the Florida Baptist Witness last month. It looks to me like the publication is rallying the flock to turn up the pressure with their latest story on\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;In the News&quot;","block_context":{"text":"In the News","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=3"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":331,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=331","url_meta":{"origin":659,"position":1},"title":"We know what one vote will be now &#8230;","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"November 30, 2007","format":false,"excerpt":"Before I begin, let me give a brief recap of what's going on for anyone just joining us. Florida's state science standards for public schools is currently going through a revision process. The current standards are a miserable mess, having been given a grade of F by the Fordham Institute.\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Alert&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Alert","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=6"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":371,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=371","url_meta":{"origin":659,"position":2},"title":"News roundup on last night&#8217;s meeting","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"January 4, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"My greatest fear concerning last night's meeting in Jacksonville about the new draft of the state science standards was that the anti-science folks would beat us with numbers. Having more people there would then skew the perception of the media and the public. Fortunately, that didn't happen! 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Those modifications include the insertion of \u00e2\u20ac\u0153scientific theory of\u00e2\u20ac\u009d and\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Our Science Standards&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Our Science Standards","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=7"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2004,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=2004","url_meta":{"origin":659,"position":4},"title":"&#8220;I&#8217;m not trying to get religion in schools&#8221;","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"February 4, 2014","format":false,"excerpt":"Orlando Sentinel columnist Beth Kassab takes a firm stance for science education and against creationism in today's piece: Why are we still debating evolution in education? Florida Citizens for Science gets a mention at the end! I called [new Florida Board of Education member Andy] Tuck to find out where\u2026","rel":"","context":"With 1 comment","block_context":{"text":"With 1 comment","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=2004#comments"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":482,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=482","url_meta":{"origin":659,"position":5},"title":"I&#8217;m sooooo tired of the word theory","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"February 26, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"I've been sitting here for a while now trying to sort out how I feel about this story in the Ocala Star-Banner. 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