{"id":568,"date":"2008-04-29T08:45:39","date_gmt":"2008-04-29T12:45:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.flascience.org\/wp\/?p=568"},"modified":"2008-08-31T16:05:01","modified_gmt":"2008-08-31T20:05:01","slug":"fate-of-the-bills","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=568","title":{"rendered":"Fate of the bills"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>What will happen with the differing versions of the deceptively named &#8220;academic freedom&#8221; bills now? (The two pages we need to keep an eye on are <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myfloridahouse.gov\/Sections\/Bills\/billsdetail.aspx?BillId=39172&amp;SessionId=57\">this one<\/a> (House) and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.flsenate.gov\/session\/index.cfm?BI_Mode=ViewBillInfo&amp;Mode=Bills&amp;SubMenu=1&amp;Year=2008&amp;billnum=2692\">this one<\/a> (Senate).)\u00c2\u00a0 The Senate and House approved very different versions of the bill, and each bill sponsor seems convinced his or her own version is the best one. With four days left, it&#8217;s a good bet that the House version will get nowhere in the Senate. But the <a href=\"http:\/\/www2.tbo.com\/content\/2008\/apr\/29\/me-vote-thins-evolution-bills-odds\/\">Tampa Tribune reports<\/a> that Senator Storms might be able to ship her version back to the House for a second look.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Monday evening, Hays said he thinks his version is the better one, but he will try to pass the original bill. He had not polled House members about it yet, he said, but is hoping that the Senate will send back the bill quickly and that House leaders will give him ample time to persuade enough Republicans to vote for Storms&#8217; version.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Our Democratic colleagues are vociferous in their opposition&#8221; to either plan, Hays said, but &#8220;I believe we can bring this home.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Asked about the possibility of a last-minute save for the legislation during this final week of session, Storms said, &#8220;I believe in miracles.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>However, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.tampabay.com\/news\/politics\/state\/article477739.ece\">St. Petersburg Times<\/a> got a quote from the House majority whip, who notes that the House lawmakers aren&#8217;t crazy about the Senate version:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>But Monday&#8217;s lengthy debate on the House floor might have been all for naught anyway.<\/p>\n<p>Legislative procedure requires that the House bill now go back to the Senate for consideration.<\/p>\n<p>Unless lawmakers there accept it, the bill cannot go to the governor to sign into law.<\/p>\n<p>Storms said Monday that she knows her chamber won&#8217;t pass Hays&#8217; proposal, so she will ask the House to consider and vote on her version.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I have no choice,&#8221; she said. &#8220;And I believe in miracles.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hays said he&#8217;ll try to get Storms&#8217; bill heard before session ends Friday, but he conceded it will take &#8220;a lot of lifting.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Rep. Ellyn Bogdanoff, House majority whip, said there is &#8220;not much appetite&#8221; in the House for Storms&#8217; proposal.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;I think we made our position clear already,&#8221; she said. &#8220;The members are uncomfortable with the Senate version.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>So, we have to pin our hopes on the conflict between the House and Senate lasting four days. With larger issues looming before the legislators in a short time frame, I like our chances. A few phone calls to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.myfloridahouse.gov\/Sections\/Representatives\/representatives.aspx\">House Republicans<\/a> expressing your opposition to the Senate bill couldn&#8217;t hurt, though.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>What will happen with the differing versions of the deceptively named &#8220;academic freedom&#8221; bills now? (The two pages we need to keep an eye on are this one (House) and this one (Senate).)\u00c2\u00a0 The Senate and House approved very different &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=568\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[23],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pcZNLl-9a","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":572,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=572","url_meta":{"origin":568,"position":0},"title":"Ball in the House&#8217;s court now","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"May 1, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Recap: The House and Senate have different versions of the deceptively named \"academic freedom\" bills. The Senate approved their version and shipped it to the House. The House gutted the Senate version and replaced it with their own entirely different version. They then shipped it back to the Senate. The\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;\"Academic Freedom\" bills '08&quot;","block_context":{"text":"\"Academic Freedom\" bills '08","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=23"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":496,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=496","url_meta":{"origin":568,"position":1},"title":"Tracking the bills","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"May 2, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"This is a summary\/tracking post that was updated throughout the Florida legislative session concerning two anti-evolution bills that were introduced in the Senate and House. Fortunately, the bills never made it into law in 2008. 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Time\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;\"Academic Freedom\" bills '08&quot;","block_context":{"text":"\"Academic Freedom\" bills '08","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=23"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":561,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=561","url_meta":{"origin":568,"position":3},"title":"Yet more amendment action","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"April 25, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"UPDATE III: I think they are on the final amendment to 7135 here at 12:03 p.m. So, hopefully, the anti-evolution bill will be up in a few minutes. UPDATE II: Bill 7135 has a ton of amendments, making it take more than an hour to work through. We're still waiting\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;\"Academic Freedom\" bills '08&quot;","block_context":{"text":"\"Academic Freedom\" bills '08","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=23"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":794,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=794","url_meta":{"origin":568,"position":4},"title":"The new legislative session","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"November 19, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"The shape of the next Florida legislative session is developing. As we watch and prepare for any bills that might affect science education, or education overall, here is a snapshot of the past and the future of the state Senate. I will try to do a similar analysis for the\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;\"ID Creationism\" bills '09&quot;","block_context":{"text":"\"ID Creationism\" bills '09","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=27"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":567,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=567","url_meta":{"origin":568,"position":5},"title":"Early news reports","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"April 28, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Accounts of the House vote are already hitting the news: Palm Beach Post: Florida House approves evolution bill Gov. 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