{"id":403,"date":"2008-01-21T20:28:39","date_gmt":"2008-01-22T01:28:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.flascience.org\/wp\/?p=403"},"modified":"2008-08-05T20:51:40","modified_gmt":"2008-08-06T00:51:40","slug":"taking-apart-gibbs-and-grubbs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=403","title":{"rendered":"Taking apart Gibbs and Grubbs"},"content":{"rendered":"

The Gradebook has a follow-up post<\/a> about the Gibbs and Grubbs “legal” memos [previous post on this here<\/a>]. This time FSU law Professor Steven G. Gey is featured, and he completely rips apart Gibbs’ and Grubbs’ arguments. It’s a good read well worth a few minutes of your time. Here’s just a taste:<\/p>\n

The offensive part of the memo’s discussion of this point is that it uses several quotes from Ken Miller to bolster the memo’s contention that teaching evolution “will demand that the concept of ‘God’ be banished from the mind and replaced by atheism.”\u00c2\u00a0 I know Ken Miller.\u00c2\u00a0 He is not only one of the country’s leading evolutionary biologists, he is also a deeply devout Catholic, who takes his religion very seriously.\u00c2\u00a0 Here’s what Ken has actually written about the subject (in an article he wrote for the religious website beliefnet.com):\u00c2\u00a0 “Like many other scientists who hold the Catholic faith, I see the Creator’s plan and purpose fulfilled in our universe. I see a planet bursting with evolutionary possibilities, a continuing creation in which the Divine providence is manifest in every living thing. I see a science that tells us there is indeed a design to life. And the name of that design is evolution.” (See http:\/\/www.beliefnet.com\/story\/171\/story_17123_2.html<\/a>.) To even remotely suggest that Ken Miller believes that (again quoting the memo) evolutionary theory is “anti-religious and atheistic leaving no room for religion in the life of the mind” suggests that the memo’s author is completely ignorant of both Ken Miller and evolutionary theory.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

The Gradebook has a follow-up post about the Gibbs and Grubbs “legal” memos [previous post on this here]. This time FSU law Professor Steven G. Gey is featured, and he completely rips apart Gibbs’ and Grubbs’ arguments. 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