{"id":344,"date":"2007-12-11T06:56:58","date_gmt":"2007-12-11T10:56:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.flascience.org\/wp\/?p=344"},"modified":"2008-08-05T20:33:15","modified_gmt":"2008-08-06T00:33:15","slug":"teach-one-teach-em-all","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=344","title":{"rendered":"Teach one, teach &#8217;em all"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tallahassee.com\/apps\/pbcs.dll\/article?AID=\/20071211\/OPINION05\/712110316\/1006\/OPINION\">A column in the Tallahassee Democrat<\/a> addresses the issue of whether a person can accept evolution and have religious faith. I know that conversation has taken place on this blog&#8217;s comments, with folks taking all sides. Some feel that science trumps religion. Others think religion trumps science. And still others think that neither trumps the other. Is this a conflict that can even be resolved?<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"bodytext\" \/><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A recent Harris poll cited by the Times shows that more people ascribe to Callaway&#8217;s theology than to Darwin&#8217;s theory. But the numbers, suspect as they may be, suggest that many people believe in both.<\/p>\n<p>That includes myself and many thoughtful people I&#8217;ve admired over the years. I spent two years at the Lexington Theological Seminary, and virtually everyone there accepted as fact that life began long before the biblical time frame would indicate. That didn&#8217;t dissuade them from believing God caused life to happen. These men and women were passionate in their faith, accepting of empirical fact and eager to make the world better.<\/p>\n<p>To the best of my knowledge, none of them aspired to be science teachers.<\/p>\n<p>Instead, they believed that educators schooled in the fields of biology, chemistry and physics should be teaching our science classes, while their own skills and training would rightly serve humanity when expressed from the pulpits of churches and in the missionary fields around the world.<\/p>\n<p>For the sake of our children&#8217;s education and our nation&#8217;s ability to remain a world leader, this separation must be maintained.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><span class=\"bodytext\">By demanding that our science classes include the Judeo-Christian story of creation, and its thinly veiled surrogate known as &#8220;intelligent design,&#8221; we open the door to theories fomented by religions and cultures that our fundamentalist brethren would find more disturbing than Darwin.<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Would parents in the Bible belt object to the teaching of the Hindu creation theory, which involves at least three deities? What about the teachings of Buddhist monks, dating back thousands of years before the birth of Christ? Where do we draw the line?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><span class=\"bodytext\"><span class=\"bodytext\">Yes, where do we draw the line? At noodley appendages? Because it looks like the Flying Spaghetti Monster <a href=\"http:\/\/www.theledger.com\/article\/20071211\/NEWS\/712110392\/1134\">has appeared to the good people on the Polk County school board<\/a>. Ramen!<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The Flying Spaghetti Monster, or FSM, is a satirical group that pokes fun at intelligent design. It first emerged in 2005 during the debate in Kansas over whether the belief should be taught in science classes.<\/p>\n<p>The group has sent dozens of e-mails to Polk County School Board members demanding that the idea of a Flying Spaghetti Monster creating the world receive classroom equal time with other views. The e-mail campaign began after four of seven board members said in November that they supported teaching intelligent design in addition to evolution.<\/p>\n<p>Most School Board members declined comment, or did not return phone messages when asked about e-mails or telephone calls from supporters or detractors of the proposed science standards.<\/p>\n<p>Board member Frank O&#8217;Reilly, who supports the new science standards, said he received about 50 e-mails from FSM supporters. &#8220;It&#8217;s a lot,&#8221; O&#8217;Reilly said. &#8220;Most of them are from the spaghetti monster.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Evolution research, you know &#8230; real science, as it concerns us humans made the news. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.heraldtribune.com\/article\/20071211\/NEWS\/712110564\/-1\/newssitemap\">Here&#8217;s an article<\/a> as it appears in the Lakeland Ledger (from a Los Angeles Times writer). Some scientists are examining evidence that seems to indicate that we hairless apes are still evolving.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>The pace of human evolution has been increasing at a stunning rate since our ancestors began spreading through Europe, Asia and Africa 40,000 years ago, quickening to 100 times historic levels after agriculture became widespread, according to a study being published today.<\/p>\n<p>By examining more than 3 million variants of DNA in 269 people, researchers identified about 1,800 genes that have been widely adopted in relatively recent times because they offer some evolutionary benefit.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>A <a href=\"http:\/\/www.heraldtribune.com\/article\/20071211\/COLUMNIST36\/712110437\/-1\/newssitemap\">column in the Sarasota Herald-Tribune<\/a> comments on the situation with the state Department of Education employee sending an e-mail out concerning evolution. The writer says the woman should not be fired, which I agree with, and that she should not have even been reprimanded, which I disagree with. But, on the other hand, he&#8217;s glad it came to light. We need to know who the opposition is.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Carraway is a program manager for the Education Department&#8217;s Office of Instructional Materials. She thinks Baptist beliefs about the origins of human and other life are scientific and deserve to share the science classroom.<\/p>\n<p>I think that promotes scientific fraud, and is an attempt not to teach science but to undermine it. So we couldn&#8217;t disagree more on this, and I hope Carraway doesn&#8217;t have, and will never have, much influence on the state&#8217;s choice of educational materials.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>And to wrap up this news roundup is an article about our <a href=\"http:\/\/blog.wired.com\/wiredscience\/2007\/12\/creationism-in.html\">science standards situation on Wired<\/a>, along with a very slanted story in the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.christianpost.com\/article\/20071210\/30414_Evolution,_Intelligent_Design_Debate_Hits_Florida_Schools.htm\">Christian Post<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>A column in the Tallahassee Democrat addresses the issue of whether a person can accept evolution and have religious faith. I know that conversation has taken place on this blog&#8217;s comments, with folks taking all sides. Some feel that science &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=344\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[3,7],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pcZNLl-5y","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":1214,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=1214","url_meta":{"origin":344,"position":0},"title":"Details on Pasco school board races","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"August 9, 2010","format":false,"excerpt":"In a \"know your candidates\" feature at the St. Petersburg Times website, school board candidates were asked several questions, one of them being: \"Should schools teach creationism in science?\" District 3 candidates said: Cynthia Armstrong \"I do not believe that creationism has a place in the science curriculum.\" Mike Ryan\u2026","rel":"","context":"With 1 comment","block_context":{"text":"With 1 comment","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=1214#comments"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2436,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=2436","url_meta":{"origin":344,"position":1},"title":"You can&#8217;t have it both ways","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"February 18, 2016","format":false,"excerpt":"I have genuine difficulty understanding a person who looks down on science and yet has no problem benefiting from it. A letter-to-the-editor writer in today\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Daytona Beach News-Journal did exactly that \u00e2\u20ac\u201c denigrate science while praising its products \u00e2\u20ac\u201c in response to my column published Sunday. He writes: THE VAGUE\u2026","rel":"","context":"With 3 comments","block_context":{"text":"With 3 comments","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=2436#comments"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":2337,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=2337","url_meta":{"origin":344,"position":2},"title":"Sidestepping an important question about school vouchers","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"August 3, 2015","format":false,"excerpt":"The Palm Beach Post published a Q & A session with representatives of Step Up for Students about Florida\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s Tax Credit Scholarship Program: Accountability next debate for private vouchers I want to emphasize that Florida Citizens for Science as an organization doesn't get directly involved in the voucher debate. 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Just to\u2026","rel":"","context":"In &quot;Our Science Standards&quot;","block_context":{"text":"Our Science Standards","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?cat=7"},"img":{"alt_text":"","src":"","width":0,"height":0},"classes":[]},{"id":771,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=771","url_meta":{"origin":344,"position":4},"title":"I had no idea we were so evil","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"November 6, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Take a look at this Viewpoint article in the Panama City News Herald. The American Civil Liberties Union, environmentalists and other groups have controlled our schools for decades and they have determined what is taught. In some cases, they have allowed errors in science books concerning evolution. ... 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