{"id":341,"date":"2007-12-09T10:38:02","date_gmt":"2007-12-09T14:38:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.flascience.org\/wp\/?p=341"},"modified":"2008-08-05T20:35:10","modified_gmt":"2008-08-06T00:35:10","slug":"florida-evolution-opinion-roundup","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=341","title":{"rendered":"Florida evolution opinion roundup"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>St. Petersburg Times <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sptimes.com\/2007\/12\/09\/Columns\/Apples__oranges__crea.shtml\">columnist Howard Troxler <\/a>does a decent job putting the so-called debate over evolution and intelligent design into perspective. The only thing I see that he leaves out is when people have a strict, very literal view of the Bible or other religious text. <a href=\"#comment-34682\">This comment<\/a> left here at FCS illustrates one such view. Otherwise, Troxler hits the need to separate science and intelligent design on the head.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;Look, evolution does not have anything to do with what people believe about God. All this theory does is try to explain the changes that we have observed.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The St. Petersburg Times is all over this issue. Another columnist, Robyn Blumner, talks about how insane it is to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sptimes.com\/2007\/12\/09\/Opinion\/A_reality_based_look_.shtml\">slip religion into science classes<\/a>. The column focuses on politics, but still makes some valid points on the current issue. A trend that I&#8217;m seeing here is that it&#8217;s painfully obvious that complaints about evolution and attempts to insert intelligent design into the classroom are all religiously motivated, no matter how much the person doing the complaining claims it&#8217;s not. Every one of these columnists can see it.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Florida is also now in a dust-up due to the inclusion of evolution in its proposed science standards. Donna Callaway, who was appointed to the state Board of Education by former Gov. Jeb Bush, said she&#8217;ll oppose the new standards because of it.<\/p>\n<p>Really folks, in this information age when scientific innovation is the key to our nation&#8217;s future, we don&#8217;t have the time to be mucking around in this tired debate. You don&#8217;t produce doctors and scientists by teaching science from the Bible. Period.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Miami Herald <a href=\"http:\/\/www.miamiherald.com\/418\/story\/337721.html\">writer Fred Grimm<\/a> reviews the history of what&#8217;s happened in this state science standards battle and warns that political meddling and creationist activism could set Florida back.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>And the specter of political interference was resurrected last week. Republican House leader Rep. Will Weatherford of Wesley Chapel told the St. Pete Times, &#8221;I&#8217;m not a scientist, but I will tell you in general, evolution is one of the theories,&#8221; said Weatherford, who added that portraying evolution as &#8220;more important or more accurate than the rest, I&#8217;m not so sure I&#8217;m in favor of that.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8221;I just can&#8217;t see how Florida could reject these standards,&#8221; said Joe Wolf, president of Florida Citizens for Science, the citizens activists pushing the new science curriculum. &#8220;It would really look bad.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>But Wolf admitted that a major fight was coming. &#8220;Many, many Christians have no trouble with evolution. Science and God can co-exist. But the creationists can generate thousands and thousands of letters.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>All those thousands of letters could send Florida scrambling back to the know-nothing curriculum that politicians forced on science teachers back in 1996. Call it devolution.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>It&#8217;s good to see all of this press in favor of sound science education. Please send these writers a note of thanks.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>St. Petersburg Times columnist Howard Troxler does a decent job putting the so-called debate over evolution and intelligent design into perspective. The only thing I see that he leaves out is when people have a strict, very literal view of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=341\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":false,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","enabled":false}}},"categories":[4,7],"tags":[],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pcZNLl-5v","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":493,"url":"https:\/\/www.flascience.org\/?p=493","url_meta":{"origin":341,"position":0},"title":"Florida columnist and NY Times see through the BS","author":"Brandon Haught","date":"March 6, 2008","format":false,"excerpt":"Bill Maxwell, columnist for the St. Petersburg Times, draws a clear line between personal faith and public education, and admonishes state Sen. 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