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The debate event between Bill Nye and Ken Ham attracted the notice of the Tampa Bay Times: Nye, Ham unearth age-old debate: Evolution vs. Creationism<\/a>. Our very own Florida Citizens for Science vice president Jonathan Smith was asked for his reaction before and after the debate.<\/p>\n

Before:<\/p>\n

“All this achieves is to give creationism some sort of credence that it does not deserve,” said Jonathan Smith, co-founder of Florida Citizens for Science, a group dedicated to improving science education.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

After:<\/p>\n

“Did anyone win?” Smith said. “I think Ken Ham failed to answer any of Bill Nye’s questions. \u00e2\u20ac\u00a6 Ham’s mind-set is that he has all the answers in his book and then he tries to fit his world view to match the book. That’s not how science works.<\/p>\n

“Bottom line for me and many of my colleagues \u00e2\u20ac\u201d Nye cooked the Ham.”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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