Comments on: We need a better road map to science education success http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511 Defending and promoting sound science in Florida Sun, 19 May 2013 06:16:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: Bob Calder http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-233089 Bob Calder Thu, 26 Apr 2012 11:48:14 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-233089 Brandon, I don't think it would be necessarily bad if ten physicists taught ten science standards. The social problem is that students couldn't be measured by people who aren't scientists. As you know, measuring is more important than anything because it determines rewards. Perhaps the biggest driver that allows science stupidity to join with science cheerleaders is national standards because that will allow measurement and control from the top. /sarcasm Brandon, I don’t think it would be necessarily bad if ten physicists taught ten science standards. The social problem is that students couldn’t be measured by people who aren’t scientists. As you know, measuring is more important than anything because it determines rewards.

Perhaps the biggest driver that allows science stupidity to join with science cheerleaders is national standards because that will allow measurement and control from the top.
/sarcasm

]]> By: Bill http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231352 Bill Mon, 16 Apr 2012 02:21:51 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231352 What was embarassing was that they pretended they were not anti religious, that they concealed the fact that they were atheists, and that they pretended that their site was all just about "Science". It was not. Oh, and don't order me around, atheist. What was embarassing was that they pretended they were not anti religious, that they concealed the fact that they were atheists, and that they pretended that their site was all just about “Science”.

It was not.

Oh, and don’t order me around, atheist.

]]> By: Jonathan Smith http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231241 Jonathan Smith Sun, 15 Apr 2012 14:45:10 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231241 Bill, So what if atheists dominated the KSS? What if was dominated by Christians,Women, Afro-Americans, Musolims or Gays, would you still have a problem? Why was it "embarrassing,and for who? Your prejudice shines through quite clearly.I'm an athiest, so is 15% of the nation and 92% of the National Academy of Scientist.Move on. Bill,
So what if atheists dominated the KSS? What if was dominated by Christians,Women, Afro-Americans, Musolims or Gays, would you still have a problem? Why was it “embarrassing,and for who? Your prejudice shines through quite clearly.I’m an athiest, so is 15% of the nation and 92% of the National Academy of Scientist.Move on.

]]> By: Bill http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231135 Bill Sat, 14 Apr 2012 22:56:54 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231135 Atheists dominated the Kansas Citizens for Science discussion board. It was getting embarrassing, and then Jack, in an argument, admitted that he been an atheist all along. Bad PR in my opinion. So he has now shut down the board, which was probably a good move. Atheists dominated the Kansas Citizens for Science discussion board.

It was getting embarrassing, and then Jack, in an argument, admitted that he been an atheist all along.

Bad PR in my opinion.

So he has now shut down the board, which was probably a good move.

]]> By: Jonathan smith http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231111 Jonathan smith Sat, 14 Apr 2012 18:32:57 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231111 JD Thanks for your comment although I’m not sure of it’s relevance to Brandon’s post. As VP of FCS I know that many of our members are religious and many are not. The one thing that none of our members do (and won’t be allowed to do) is to try and promote their own non religious or religious ideologies through our organization. We are here solely to promote science education and support STEM education in our state. I know Jack Krebs personally and to assume that his intensions were to promote Atheism in his state, seems a little incredulous. JD Thanks for your comment although I’m not sure of it’s relevance to Brandon’s post.
As VP of FCS I know that many of our members are religious and many are not. The one thing that none of our members do (and won’t be allowed to do) is to try and promote their own non religious or religious ideologies through our organization. We are here solely to promote science education and support STEM education in our state.
I know Jack Krebs personally and to assume that his intensions were to promote Atheism in his state, seems a little incredulous.

]]> By: JD http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231103 JD Sat, 14 Apr 2012 16:57:44 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231103 Kansas Citizens for Science has disclosed their discussion blog. Jack Krebs admitted he was an atheist...which some people thought back in the evolution wars days...which suggests to me that it was not just about promoting science. I am all for Science, I am against atheists USING it to attack religious views. If he wants to be effective in 2014...when the issues are going to come back to Kansas...he needs to stop those discussions. Which he did. Kansas Citizens for Science has disclosed their discussion blog.

Jack Krebs admitted he was an atheist…which some people thought back in the evolution wars days…which suggests to me that it was not just about promoting science.

I am all for Science, I am against atheists USING it to attack religious views.

If he wants to be effective in 2014…when the issues are going to come back to Kansas…he needs to stop those discussions.

Which he did.

]]> By: Ivorygirl http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231091 Ivorygirl Sat, 14 Apr 2012 13:19:34 +0000 http://www.flascience.org/wp/?p=1511#comment-231091 Bravo FCS !!!! I wish you all the best in your efforts with the FDOE and the FBOE. Bravo FCS !!!! I wish you all the best in your efforts with the FDOE and the FBOE.

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