One More Homeschooled Kid Lost To Science.

I have to admit to being some what saddened after reading a letter published in the Lakeland Ledger newspaper today. The letter was written by a “homeschooled” fourteen year old girl named Kelly Freed and it was in response to FCS board member Dave Campbell’s article from the New York Times.

My first angry thought was that I would write my own letter to the newspaper and point out all the glaring errors and false quotes she had made.   I mean just look at some of them.

“Actually, it takes much more faith to believe in evolution than to believe that the world was created by a divine Creator, God.”
“Regarding life, there must be a designer and an orderly first cause, not simply a “Big Bang.” Let’s say that everything just evolved. From where did it start? How did the “Big Bang” bang? The teleological argument states that there is a design in nature. In addition the universe is orderly and there are specific discoverable laws.”
“Did you know that fossils actually condemn geological records? Many complex life forms appear in the earliest rock formations. Also, there is no evidence of any creatures changing from kind to kind. There are no transitional forms in the fossil record. The “missing links” are still missing. Where did they go?”
… ad nauseam.

After thinking for a while, I realized that this obviously bright young women had simply been lied to. Lied to by her parents (or whoever homeschools her), lied to by her friends, and lied to by those who are supposed to be responsible for her spirituality. I was sad to think she will join the increasing number of young Americans who are ignorant about science and reject critical thinking.

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36 Responses to One More Homeschooled Kid Lost To Science.

  1. S.Scott says:

    I find it a little creepy. What would you think of people who worshipped a God of the sea or the underworld or of thieves?

    Probably that they were out of their minds. But that was a long time ago – no one believes in those things anymore! We have advanced!


  2. PatrickHenry says:

    So the girl is an ignoramus. She will live her life in a twilight world of ghosts and demons, and whatever she earns will be given to preachers. So what? What’s the problem?

  3. Ivory girl says:

    Patrick,I think Jonathan is making the point that if the girl was attending a public high school(with a teacher like Dave running the class),she might have a chance to learn real science.It seems that will never happen and she will live her life in ignorance,do’nt you find that just a little sad?

  4. Karl says:

    For all we know, the letter might have been written by some withering bible thumping lie-monger posing as a teen girl. Of course I could be paranoid but the fact that the talking points in the letter is practically word-for-word identical to the same unoriginal creationist garbage that gets shoveled here by fundie trolls gives some justification for my suspicions.

    Even if there is actually some poor girl out there being fed horrible lies from her parents, her existence of forced naivete and her inevitable failure in anything that requires critical thinking will further reinforce the growing recognition that bible literalism = stupid.

  5. PatrickHenry says:

    Ivory girl says:

    … and she will live her life in ignorance,do’nt you find that just a little sad?

    When Darwin sailed on the Beagle, and observed savages in various exotic locales, did he feel sad? Not really. What Darwin did was observe, not emote. He noted the ways in which they were similar to and different from the people in civilized nations. He speculated that our ancestors were once like them. He also saw that they were dying out, and he reasoned that this kind of extinction could help to explain gaps in the evolutionary record. The only emotional response he recorded was his horror that savages were enslaved.

    Slavery aside, Darwin didn’t get all gushy and mushy about how sad it was that savages lived in ignorance. They were what they were. And — adopting Darwin’s dispassionate mode of thought as well as I can — I say that this girl is what she is.

  6. Ivory girl says:


    I would not presume to know what Darwin was thinking or how dispassionate his feelings were towards the people he was observing.
    We are not talking about savages here,we are looking at a young lady (Karl,I think she is real I have met many just like her) who has been influenced by her upbringing,and well, brainwashed,I agree with Jonathan,it is a little sad that she will miss out on the and I will have to disagree on this point.Sorry!!

  7. ABO says:

    O you guys shouldn’t fell sorry for this poor girl, after all she isn’t very gullible. It’s very unlikely that she will be fed full of crap in the future by so called scientist.

    And you have got to remember, many of Darwin’s savages were just black people, so as self proclaimed mutants you should be very careful with your savage comments.

  8. Wolfhound says:

    Oh, looky! One of the resident Trolls4Christ is blathering away. The letter writer has already been fed full of fantasy fairytale crap by the religiotards. You believe in a talking snake, dude. You lose.

  9. What’s sad from the theistic viewpoint is that years later when she finds out her parents and trusted church leaders have been lying to her, she may abandon her faith completely.

  10. ABO says:


    Suppose she’s right and you’ve been lied too.

  11. Wolfhound says:

    Oh, look, Pascal’s Wager. We’ve never seen that one before. :rolls eyes:

  12. ABO says:

    The faithful flock to get a glimpse of his holiness the Prophet Charles Darwin.

    “To those who would deny that genetic drift is responsible for a branching evolutionary tree of increasing biodiversity amid changing ecosystems, we say, ‘Look upon the face of Darwin!'” said Jeanette Cosgrove, who, along with members of her microbiology class, has maintained a candlelight vigil at the site for the past 72 hours.
    “Over millions of successive generations, a specific subvariant of one species of slime mold adapted to this particular concrete wall, in order to one day form this stain, and thus make manifest this vision of Darwin’s glorious countenance,” Cosgrove said, overcome with emotion.
    “It’s a miracle,” she added.

  13. Karl says:

    You do know is satire right? Will you be posting an article about how Jesus had returned two years ago and was working at Starbucks all this time from the National Enquirer?

  14. PatrickHenry says:

    Creationists take everything literally. Satire doesn’t work with them. It’s also why they have so much trouble with analogies. The humor a creationist can deal with is at the level of: “Darwinist fell into an open manhole! Har-de-har-har!”

  15. S.Scott says:

    More proof that ABO can’t think for himself.

  16. BobH says:

    That newspaper sure seemed to have given quite a bit of editorial page space to a teenage kid who doesn’t even have a high school diploma under her belt.

    I can’t help but wonder how much space they’ll give to any biology professor who follows up with a letter of his or her own?

  17. A person who can’t tell satire from real news faults my ability to sense when I’ve been lied to? Too funny!

    BobH – they’d probably give more space to a 14-year-old who grasps science and can express his/her views clearly and concisely.

    (yes, they do exist . . . )

  18. Skepticism says:

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  19. Karl says:

    Isn’t it about time you created a new sock puppet since your last three gimmick personalities crashed and burned so horribly? At least try make this new one interesting, although without any of those higher brain functions you lost after your biblical lobotomy, I’m not hoping for much of an improvement.

  20. Wolfhound says:

    Jeez, Karl, haven’t you seen Romero’s movies? You have to shoot these things in the head or else they keep coming back. I mean, LOOK at the guy! No wonder he needs to eat brains! 😉

  21. Skepticism says:


  22. Karl says:

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  23. PatrickHenry says:

    Laws of Thermodynamics 2.0 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  24. Skepticism says: 9.20!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. Brandon Haught says:

    what is it, lassie? what are trying to tell me? did timmy fall down that damn well again!?

  26. Noodlicious says:

    Hitchhikers: 42.0!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  28. Wolfhound says:

    Hey, looks like JohnnyMac took our advice and found a new sockpuppet! Same crap, slightly different slant, but pulling a Godwin right off the bat. 🙂 I’d point out again that atheists don’t “hate” god/gods any more than we “hate” the fairies in the garden and Santa Claus but I know that these moronic trolls cannot be taught. :shrugs:

  29. Brandon Haught says:

    I’m not so sure that this is JohnnyMac. Different IP address. But then again I’ve noticed that Skepticism pops up under different IP addresses sometimes, too.

  30. Skepticism says:

    It’s not me guys. So have you just started disemvoweling people you disagree with altogether? Oh well, you can’t disemvowel codes….

  31. Ivy Mike says:

    Hey, Brandon, why is MacDonald still allowed to post here? I mean, he’s used at least four different sockpuppets, lies like a tired dog, slanders science, is an ignorant bigot, and generally only comes here to start flamewars.

    Let’s face it, if he really had a pair, he’d go to any of about a dozen sites to really debate…sites that are set up for it. All he’s doing here is pissing on the carpet.

  32. Ivy Mike says:

    Oh, and once again, even though the creotards claim to be “all about science”, they can’t help tossing out biblical quotes, verses, and “God” talk.

    Right, it’s not about religion, nosiree…

  33. Karl says:

    If it’s not one moron trying to be ten other different morons, then it’s ten morons all trying to be the same moron. Given the recent offerings we’ve seen, there is little or no distinction between the two. It’s not really hard to circumvent a simple ip ban so don’t go off on how l33t you are just yet…

    I’d say that your behavior goes beyond simple ideological disagreement. It’s more like an advance case of rabies and the disemvoweling is a quarantine. But hey, miracles do happen, and one or two cases of advanced rabies have resulted in partial to full recovery. Here’s hoping you wake up from your fever dream.

  34. Noodlicious says:

    “I’m not so sure that this is JohnnyMac. Different IP address. But then again I’ve noticed that Skepticism pops up under different IP addresses sometimes, too.”

    JohnnyMac/Skep probably gets some of his brainwashed youth lemmings to help him out.

  35. ABO says:

    Spaghetti Man

    It could be possible that Skep’s/JohnnyMac IP address is in the process of self transformation, to which its user/users are completely unaware.

  36. Noodlicious says:

    “Spaghetti Man”?
    Oooooh……why ABO…I do believe you’re coming on to me.
    Frankly my dear…I don’t give a damn!

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